from a blog I post on
ficino4ml said...
One of the outcomes of toxic systems - you'd think they were designed this way - is abuse of the less powerful by the more powerful AND enabling/cover ups by other equally or more powerful figures. Right-wing Christianity manifests this syndrome as do many corporations and other institutions.
Legion of Logic said...
"Right-wing Christianity manifests this syndrome as do many corporations and other institutions."
Indeed, the Democrats excel at this very thing. Quite sad to watch people get taken advantage of like that.
Out of curiosity, does anyone here actually think that Hillary Clinton is a candidate a Christian could happily support without a serious conflict of interest? And can anyone name a Republican candidate from 2016 that the left would not have criticized Christians for choosing? Not talking about compared to Trump, just in of themselves.
Indeed, the Democrats excel at this very thing. Quite sad to watch people get taken advantage of like that.
Out of curiosity, does anyone here actually think that Hillary Clinton is a candidate a Christian could happily support without a serious conflict of interest? And can anyone name a Republican candidate from 2016 that the left would not have criticized Christians for choosing? Not talking about compared to Trump, just in of themselves.
Joe Hinman said...
And if no such evidence is discovered, will the left stop talking about Russian collusion as if it was a fact? Hmm.
No! why should we? we know enough now to see that he did not win the election! He may not have openly decided to tea up with Russia but he clearly benefited from what they did in ways that altered the out come. He fell into a crack that should not have been there,he won one state by the skin of his teeth that happened to allow the electoral vote to favor the choice the people did not accept.
the American people voted for Hillary,the electoral vote did not reflect and never reflects the will of the people. It reflect only a constrict created by 18th century pundits a a failsafe against the kind of man Trump it didn't even do it' job,
read the Federalist Papers
No! why should we? we know enough now to see that he did not win the election! He may not have openly decided to tea up with Russia but he clearly benefited from what they did in ways that altered the out come. He fell into a crack that should not have been there,he won one state by the skin of his teeth that happened to allow the electoral vote to favor the choice the people did not accept.
the American people voted for Hillary,the electoral vote did not reflect and never reflects the will of the people. It reflect only a constrict created by 18th century pundits a a failsafe against the kind of man Trump it didn't even do it' job,
read the Federalist Papers
Joe Hinman said...
at the very least he has no mandate why should I give him one? 13,000 people a year will die becauseof his stupidity deregulation of coal burnish pollution--that is proven) you can explain it all to then in heaven.
Joe Hinman said...
Out of curiosity, does anyone here actually think that Hillary Clinton is a candidate a Christian could happily support without a serious conflict of interest? And can anyone name a Republican candidate from 2016 that the left would not have criticized Christians for choosing? Not talking about compared to Trump, just in of themselves
LL when are you going to lay on me some provable data to show what she did this is bother pizza thing? All I get is "its so obvious: well ant obvious to me, give me something I can take to the ballot box,,
LL when are you going to lay on me some provable data to show what she did this is bother pizza thing? All I get is "its so obvious: well ant obvious to me, give me something I can take to the ballot box,,
Joe Hinman said...
LL "And Trump beat Hillary for a host of reasons,..."
In the lala land of evangelical fantasy time, in reality he did not beat her at all,the American people voted against him, he intimidated voters in North Carolina that it did not offset Michigan, and they stole Florida again.
black turn out in Florida and NC were way down, the did have fear squads roaming Hispanic neighborhoods in fort worth initiated Spanish voters,
In the lala land of evangelical fantasy time, in reality he did not beat her at all,the American people voted against him, he intimidated voters in North Carolina that it did not offset Michigan, and they stole Florida again.
black turn out in Florida and NC were way down, the did have fear squads roaming Hispanic neighborhoods in fort worth initiated Spanish voters,
Hugo Pelland said...
Wow, so much BS from both the article and the comments here... but the worst must be:
- Still talking about Hillary 1 year after the election instead of assessing the disaster of the current POTUS administration.
- Still claiming there was 'nothing there ' in the Russia-related scandals after actual indictments happened.
- Calling soccer footbal on an American-owned blog (j/k)
- Still talking about Hillary 1 year after the election instead of assessing the disaster of the current POTUS administration.
- Still claiming there was 'nothing there ' in the Russia-related scandals after actual indictments happened.
- Calling soccer footbal on an American-owned blog (j/k)
Joe Hinman said...
Blogger Legion of Logic said...
Joe: "still think it's really about the audacity of a woman who dared to seek power and play the game like men do."
This is perhaps the biggest hurdle to the left understanding conservatives. Leftists seem to think that conservatives aren't progressives due to some form of bigotry, when in fact there was precisely zero reason for a conservative to vote for any politician with the policies Hillary advocated. And yet the left blames sexism, as though if only Hillary had been Harry we would have voted against our own interests to put another Clinton in office.
No that is nonsense. I understand conservatives very well. By that I do not mean "I understand how stupid they are." No I undertaker their view point as they understand it and I can respect that.My niece who I grew up with is a right wing conservative intellectual and of great integrity. That does not make Hillary the Whore of Babylon, that is not a failing Hillary that you have a conservative view,so far all you have told me is that you hate her because she has a different vied,
I've spoken with many Trump supporters as to why and how they could support him during the primaries especially, given that he was an obvious liar and not exactly a reliable conservative, and not once was "Women belong in the kitchen!!!" given as the reason. Trump beat the rest of the field because conservatives are sick of Republicans, simple as that, but they are still opposed to progressive policies.
therefore Hillary is the whore of Babylon.
And Trump beat Hillary for a host of reasons, but I firmly believe any sexism was canceled out by people who voted for Hillary BECAUSE she was a woman - and yes, these people proudly announced themselves.
sexism is their motive for demonizing her.
Just look at demographic statistics of the last several elections and you'll see that the male/female, black/white divides are remarkably consistent all the way back into the 90s, with two exceptions - Obama's first election when he swept the board, and the '96 election where Perot siphoned votes. Otherwise the major indicator of how a particular demographic would vote statstically was whether the candidate was a Democrat or Republican, and Hillary was no different. Sexism had nothing to do with it.
I have voted against a lot of people without chanting lock her up
Joe: "still think it's really about the audacity of a woman who dared to seek power and play the game like men do."
This is perhaps the biggest hurdle to the left understanding conservatives. Leftists seem to think that conservatives aren't progressives due to some form of bigotry, when in fact there was precisely zero reason for a conservative to vote for any politician with the policies Hillary advocated. And yet the left blames sexism, as though if only Hillary had been Harry we would have voted against our own interests to put another Clinton in office.
No that is nonsense. I understand conservatives very well. By that I do not mean "I understand how stupid they are." No I undertaker their view point as they understand it and I can respect that.My niece who I grew up with is a right wing conservative intellectual and of great integrity. That does not make Hillary the Whore of Babylon, that is not a failing Hillary that you have a conservative view,so far all you have told me is that you hate her because she has a different vied,
I've spoken with many Trump supporters as to why and how they could support him during the primaries especially, given that he was an obvious liar and not exactly a reliable conservative, and not once was "Women belong in the kitchen!!!" given as the reason. Trump beat the rest of the field because conservatives are sick of Republicans, simple as that, but they are still opposed to progressive policies.
therefore Hillary is the whore of Babylon.
And Trump beat Hillary for a host of reasons, but I firmly believe any sexism was canceled out by people who voted for Hillary BECAUSE she was a woman - and yes, these people proudly announced themselves.
sexism is their motive for demonizing her.
Just look at demographic statistics of the last several elections and you'll see that the male/female, black/white divides are remarkably consistent all the way back into the 90s, with two exceptions - Obama's first election when he swept the board, and the '96 election where Perot siphoned votes. Otherwise the major indicator of how a particular demographic would vote statstically was whether the candidate was a Democrat or Republican, and Hillary was no different. Sexism had nothing to do with it.
I have voted against a lot of people without chanting lock her up
Joe Hinman said...
Hugo Pelland said...
Wow, so much BS from both the article and the comments here... but the worst must be:
- Still talking about Hillary 1 year after the election instead of assessing the disaster of the current POTUS administration.
- Still claiming there was 'nothing there ' in the Russia-related scandals after actual indictments happened.
- Calling soccer footbal on an American-owned blog (j/k)
ROTFLOL!! boravo Hugo!
Wow, so much BS from both the article and the comments here... but the worst must be:
- Still talking about Hillary 1 year after the election instead of assessing the disaster of the current POTUS administration.
- Still claiming there was 'nothing there ' in the Russia-related scandals after actual indictments happened.
- Calling soccer footbal on an American-owned blog (j/k)
ROTFLOL!! boravo Hugo!
